Wednesday, 2013-03-27

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Tartarusmranostay: apparently so :)12:11
mdpthey let me in too12:16
av500its basically #beagle_overflow12:18
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* zenlinux_ pokes prpplague about the jtag connector question15:31
prpplaguezenlinux_: behind schedule on that due to the tight deadline for the X3 layout15:32
prpplaguezenlinux_: it's on my schedule for today15:32
zenlinux_cool, thanks15:32
prpplaguezenlinux_: posting the Trainer Lure info on the wiki now15:32
prpplaguezenlinux_: i'll be doing the testing with the flyswatter2 and openocd15:32
prpplaguezenlinux_: as well as some bsdl tests with urjtag15:33
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zenlinux_prpplague, did you design the flyswatter2? that looks pretty sweet15:48
prpplaguezenlinux_: yea15:49
prpplaguezenlinux_: best selling low cost jtag on the market15:49
prpplaguezenlinux_: we can use it to program the SPI flash instead of the dediprog as well15:49
zenlinux_Cool. I may need to get one. :)15:49
zenlinux_whoa, major benefit!15:49
prpplaguezenlinux_: http://flashrom.org/Flashrom15:51
* dvhart is grumpy with flashrom15:57
dvhartwas a pita to configure in dediprog support15:58
prpplaguedvhart / zenlinux_ https://plus.google.com/u/0/101339419642360856354/posts/ZEYF79eMZHb16:05
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prpplaguezenlinux_: not sure you got the link before you dropped connection https://plus.google.com/u/0/101339419642360856354/posts/ZEYF79eMZHb16:11
zenlinux_yep, going to re-share - thanks a bunch!16:11
prpplaguedvhart: really? it was a snap getting flyswatter2 in there...16:11
dvhartprpplague, maybe I missed something. I ended up doing something horrible to the make system to get it to include it.16:11
dvhartprpplague, And Fedora doesn't include it, seems likely for the same reason16:12
dvhartprpplague, is there some simple config method I just missed?16:12
prpplaguedvhart: i haven't opened up a dediprog yet, is it ft2232 based?16:12
dvhartI found the docs to be not helpful16:12
dvhartnot sure what it's based on16:12
dvhart-p dediprog16:12
dvhartdidn't look passed that :-)16:12
prpplaguedvhart: for ft2232 based stuff it is just a matter of defining the pin mappings16:13
prpplaguehehe16:13
dvhartohit works16:13
dvhartthey have support16:13
dvhartbut enabling that in the build system is not straight forward16:13
dvhartprpplague, congrats on training lure btw16:13
dvhartyou know what happens when you send lots of patches to a driver?16:14
prpplaguedvhart: hehe you magically become the maintainer....16:14
dvhartyup16:14
dvhartjust asked if they could put me int he MAINTAINERS file16:14
dvhartprobably just as well16:14
dvhartwe're likely to be the most active users of the tunnelcreek drivers with Minnowboard16:15
dvhartalso have a discussion started on netdev re the pch_gbe driver16:15
prpplaguedvhart: ok dandy16:16
* prpplague will be swamped with gerber/schematic reviews today and tomorrow16:17
prpplaguedvhart: i'll be free to talk more software stuff after we get the X3 out for Fab16:17
dvhartprpplague, do you have a schematic I can review?16:17
prpplaguedvhart: yep16:17
dvhartwould love to see it16:17
prpplaguedvhart: do you know how to use a gerber viewer?16:18
dvhartI haven't done it before16:18
dvhartare they easily aquired?16:18
dvhartis something like gerbv usable?16:19
prpplaguedvhart: yea gerbv is what i use under linux16:19
prpplaguedvhart: i think there is a version for windows16:19
dvhartthat wouldn't help me much ;)16:19
prpplaguedvhart: i forwarded you the schematic and fab pdf16:19
prpplaguedvhart: i'll forward you the gerbers shortly16:20
dvhartthanks16:20
prpplaguedvhart: i'm linux only, so i don't usually keep track of what is available for windows16:20
* prpplague wanders off to find some coffee16:21
mranostayprpplague: that a eagle part for the lure?16:22
dvhartprpplague, do you remember, off the top of your head, what the more common PHY part was?16:26
dvhartI don't have it written down anywhere16:26
* dvhart wonders why prpplague brought up windows in the first place...16:27
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prpplaguedvhart: rtl821116:42
prpplaguedvhart: more common for use with the EG20T16:42
prpplaguedvhart: the AR8031 is pretty heavily used in the ARM SoC arena16:42
prpplaguemranostay: yea it was done in eagle16:42
prpplaguedvhart: email sent with datasheet16:49
dvhartprpplague, thanks17:06
prpplaguedvhart: let me know if you have questions17:09
dvhartyup, thanks17:09
mranostayprpplague: under NDA or can you post that eagle lbr? :)17:10
prpplaguemranostay: no it's CC17:11
prpplaguemranostay: my design17:11
prpplaguemranostay: which parts are you wanting?17:12
mranostaywell the lure part17:15
prpplaguemranostay: ahh right17:15
prpplaguemranostay: basically the lure outline and the placement of the expansion header?17:16
mranostayyeah17:16
* prpplague makes a note he needs to post the lure libs17:16
mdpfor diptrace17:19
mranostayprpplague: github it17:19
prpplaguemdp: yea i got to get it on diptrace as well17:21
prpplaguemranostay: elinux.org wiki for now17:21
mranostayprpplague is not cool then17:22
prpplaguemranostay: i can assure you, i have never been called cool17:33
calculusprpplague: I would have figured the bus pirate was the low cost jtag programmer, maybe it is not the "best selling low cost"17:46
prpplaguecalculus: hehe, well you have a point to some extent18:02
prpplaguecalculus: but bus pirate isn't really sold as a jtag device18:03
prpplaguecalculus: combined sales of the flyswatter and flyswatter2 are just a little over 50k units18:03
* prpplague wonders home many bus pirates were sold18:03
mranostayprpplague: you must be rich now :P18:14
* mranostay ducks18:14
prpplaguemranostay: hehe18:15
prpplaguemranostay: rusty and i are pushing all the profits back into TCT for now18:15
mdpcapital improvement funds to someday become PBT (Plastic Bottle Tools)18:16
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prpplaguemdp: hehe18:21
prpplaguectyler: hey bud!18:21
prpplaguectyler: welcome to #minnowboard , where the fishing is fun to do with a 1/4 stick of TNT!18:22
ctylerAw, just 1/4 stick?18:23
ctylerSo I think this board needs some more capacitors :-)18:24
mranostayprpplague: so can we get 10 farad cap on the power supply?18:29
* mranostay trolls18:30
prpplaguectyler: trust me, i have gone around and around and around over that, hehe18:32
prpplaguemranostay: indeed18:32
prpplaguectyler: where did you hear about Minnow?18:32
mranostayprpplague: you are going to scare him off with that line of questioning18:33
* prpplague knows ctyler from the #fedora-arm channel18:33
mranostayso he is arm'ed?18:34
* ctyler is, indeed, ARMed to the teeth18:35
ctylerprpplague: I can't remember -- you mentioned it when you left TI but I'd heard of it from somewhere (???) a few weeks before that.18:36
ctylerIs the cost known?18:36
prpplaguectyler: sub $20018:36
ds2you got M0's dental implants? :D18:37
prpplagueds2: ??18:38
ds2* ctyler:#minnowboard is, indeed, ARMed to the teeth18:38
ds2:D18:38
prpplagueahh18:39
prpplagueds2: the late nights have revokes my license to understand humor18:39
ds2:D18:40
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mranostayprpplague: WAKE UP!18:41
* dm8tbr makes prpplague a double espresso and puts it as a depth charge into a large cup of pitchblack coffee18:42
prpplaguedm8tbr: tastie18:42
dm8tbrand chocolate covered bacon as a side snack18:43
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zenlinuxjust heard from Tracey; she's got the demo MinnowBoard running the Osmos game at POSSCON :)18:50
prpplaguezenlinux: dandy18:52
prpplaguezenlinux: hehe did you see the updated mugshot?18:52
* prpplague forwards to zenlinux 18:53
zenlinuxprpplague, the mugshot looks the same, where are you referring to?18:53
prpplaguezenlinux: hehe check your email18:53
zenlinuxah yes, that was exactly my thought - looks like an actual mugshot18:55
zenlinuxjust need to photoshop in a height chart behind her18:57
prpplaguehehe19:02
prpplaguectyler: what do you have in mind for usage of the minnow? anything specific?19:14
prpplaguectyler: i just posted the specs for the trainer accesory board19:14
prpplaguectyler: http://www.elinux.org/Trainer_Lure19:14
ctylerprpplague: just comparing to some of the ARM board for educational purposes, no definite plans yet.19:16
ctylerprpplague: what's the main case for using this board over some of the others?19:16
prpplaguectyler: for all practical purposes it is the first completely open x86 based board, gerbers,schematic, BoM19:17
prpplaguectyler: you can build it yourself19:17
mdpyou can boot it off of mainline19:17
prpplaguectyler: and a perfect platform for working/testing EFI development19:18
ctylercool.19:20
prpplaguectyler: trainer is basically an arduino board married to the minnow19:22
prpplaguectyler: you'd  be able to run the arduino IDE right on the minnow19:23
prpplaguedvhart: ping20:39
dvhartprpplague, pong21:10
prpplaguedvhart: labels for the hdmi connector21:12
dvhartresponding via email right now21:12
prpplaguedvhart: ok thanks21:12
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prpplaguegabrbedd: hey bud23:01
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