Wednesday, 2015-02-25

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warthog9bcran: I think they are back this week01:02
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DonkeyHoteiprpplague: are you still up by any chance?03:47
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prpplagueDonkeyHotei: up, but brain dead tired04:29
prpplagueDonkeyHotei: still recovering from SCALE04:30
DonkeyHoteiprpplague: as am i04:41
DonkeyHoteiprpplague: but you did ask me to contact you04:41
prpplagueDonkeyHotei: remind me what about?04:55
DonkeyHoteiend of the show, we talked about openwrt04:56
prpplagueDonkeyHotei: ahh right04:56
prpplagueDonkeyHotei: i didn't put two and two together04:56
prpplagueDonkeyHotei: yea, let chat tomorrow about that04:57
prpplagueDonkeyHotei: i've just finished a monster day getting back after SCALE04:57
prpplagueDonkeyHotei: i had literally a thousand emails04:57
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dkeavhttp://www.supermicro.com/products/system/Compact/IoT/SYS-E100-8Q.cfm05:51
dkeavo.005:51
DonkeyHoteii'm not familiar with the quark chip. is it arm?05:56
dkeavno x8605:57
dkeavreally low power pentium 1 basically05:57
DonkeyHoteibut there are really low power atoms06:06
dkeavyea06:06
dkeavthis is like a really really low power atom06:06
dkeavthink like arduino or such06:06
DonkeyHoteiah06:07
DonkeyHoteiare you familiar with the SoC's from RDC?06:07
dkeavnope06:07
dkeavi'm not really familiar with anything hehe06:08
DonkeyHoteispecifically the 861x/321x family06:08
DonkeyHoteithey have a cyrix 486 core06:08
dkeavnow that is a chip i've not heard about for a long time ;)06:09
DonkeyHoteiso how much is this e100-8q?06:11
dkeavi found it on amazon for $19906:12
DonkeyHoteiand the pi is 3506:13
dkeavyea06:14
dkeavplus a zigbee shield06:15
dkeavsame thing...06:15
dkeavand new pi is armv706:15
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bcranDonkeyHotei: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/quark/intel-quark-technologies.html - also http://linuxgizmos.com/edison-iot-module-ships-with-atom-plus-quark-combo-soc/06:52
DonkeyHoteihmm06:58
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DonkeyHoteiprpplague: hi18:28
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prpplagueDonkeyHotei: hey18:30
DonkeyHoteii've been thinking18:31
prpplagueDonkeyHotei: my wife tells me that kind of thing is dangerous18:32
DonkeyHotei$139 is a HUGE premium over $35 just for x86 instead of proprietary arm18:33
DonkeyHoteiprpplague: it's four times as much18:38
koenhow does 'proprietary arm' relate to 'non-proprietary arm' ?18:40
koen(I don't even know what it means)18:41
warthog9DonkeyHotei: well it's not just x86 vs. ARM, there's ease of use and high speed i/o, etc as well18:41
georgemplus sata :)18:42
koennot abusing usb for power18:42
warthog9i bet even koen here would agree how much easier the MAX is to use vs. several of the ARM boards he has to use for work18:42
koenyes18:42
koenmax has serial18:42
koenand ethernet18:42
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warthog9I'll happily admit, the rPi is a great board, bonus points that the v2 upgraded the cpu.18:45
warthog9but it's also not as powerful as a MAX, and the MAX is by far more open and versatile18:45
prpplaguenot to mention the fact that MAX meets all the standards for open source hardware as defined by the open source hardware association18:47
DonkeyHoteimight be worth getting the fsf's approval too18:49
ahollerbesides that current low price thingy isn't the rpi2 but the odroid-c118:49
warthog9the odroid c1 does look nice18:54
DonkeyHoteistill no sata18:58
ahollerunfortunately19:01
DonkeyHoteiprpplague: i don't remember, did you say you wanted to send me a minnowboard for openwrt?19:02
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prpplagueDonkeyHotei: we were discussing what might be a good combination of accessory boards to make a decent router19:03
prpplagueDonkeyHotei: and you mentioned the bare-metail alternative to openwrt19:03
DonkeyHoteiyes, they have a channel, #librecmc19:04
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DonkeyHoteiprpplague: http://librecmc.org/19:12
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ahollerhaha, yocto forks itself to death here with vfork running out of resources due to my limit on threads ;)19:42
DonkeyHoteiprpplague: i'm ready to discuss further19:59
prpplagueDonkeyHotei: sorry got a few meetings scheduled atm20:00
prpplagueDonkeyHotei: i'll join back in a little while20:00
DonkeyHoteithanx20:01
dememorizedwarthog9: MinnowBoard's huge problem is the "not in stock" issue :P20:59
warthog9dememorized: working on it!20:59
dememorizedGlad to hear :D20:59
warthog9dememorized: if me sitting here hand soldering it would make it go faster I would20:59
warthog9thankfully it won't so I'm slightly off that hook ;-)20:59
dememorizedThat would end up making your head feel funny I guess...21:00
warthog9mostly it would result in a lot of boards that don't work21:02
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ka6soxwarthog9, +121:30
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tripzeromy minnowboard seems sick23:15
tripzerousb disk flashes, but no display23:15
tripzerono display without usb plugged in as well23:18
tripzero:(23:19
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warthog9tripzero: that's odd23:41
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