Wednesday, 2015-05-13

*** sjolley <sjolley!~sjolley@134.134.139.76> has joined #minnowboard00:02
*** prpplague <prpplague!David@nat/intel/x-ggqwdgbkdsmcbaln> has quit IRC00:16
*** inflex <inflex!~PLD@122-148-142-6.static.dsl.dodo.com.au> has joined #minnowboard00:47
*** metastableb is now known as zz_metastableB01:02
*** zz_metastableB is now known as metastableb01:10
*** bluelightning <bluelightning!~paul@pdpc/supporter/professional/bluelightning> has quit IRC01:18
*** Oglarun <Oglarun!~Oglarun@tmo-096-127.customers.d1-online.com> has quit IRC01:37
*** emeb <emeb!~ericb@ip68-2-62-200.ph.ph.cox.net> has quit IRC02:56
*** metastableb is now known as zz_metastableB03:11
*** zz_metastableB is now known as metastableb03:25
*** aholler_ <aholler_!~aholler@p4FC372A5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #minnowboard03:36
*** aholler <aholler!~aholler@p4FC3621E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC03:40
freqwhen using msata, will the uSD card slot become like a normal sd card slot for mass storage?04:11
*** agust <agust!~agust@p4FDE70B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #minnowboard04:17
warthog9freq: the msata port has no real effect on the sd card slot04:42
warthog9the sd card slot is always an sd card slot04:43
freqok. how can i test the performance increase04:43
warthog9what increase?04:43
freqwell i switched to msata04:43
freqthe silverjaw lure came in and i reinstalled debian. i'd like to see the speed increase over sd card as hard drive04:44
warthog9I assume you are going to run some sort of disk benchmark?04:44
freqyes, i'm sure i can find something04:45
warthog9so the sdcard slot will continue to show up at /dev/mmcblk004:47
warthog9assuming you've installed to the msata device04:47
freqyes. i want to set up persistent backup with rsync to the sd card04:47
freqyes, i am running on it now04:47
warthog9so I assume you are treating /dev/mmcblk0 as just another block device04:48
warthog9I.E. no different than a /dev/sdN04:48
freqyes04:48
warthog9so I guess I'm confused on the sdcard slot would be special in any case before/after the addition of msata?04:48
freqi'd only like to know the i/o comparison04:49
warthog9that can be roughed out, what msata drive and sd card do you have?04:49
freqit's a samsung. trying to find it now04:50
freqDrives:    HDD Total Size 3068.6GB (8.9% used) ID-1 /dev/sda model SAMSUNG_MZMPC064 size 64.0GB04:51
freq           ID-2 USB /dev/sdb model HD size 3000.6GB ID-3 USB /dev/sdd model Cruzer_Fit size 4.0GB04:51
warthog9rough paper napkin math, the msata drive should be ~500MB/s to roughly04:52
warthog9errr sorry msata looks like it clocks in at roughly, 473MB/s reads, ~143MB/s writes, overall about 257MB/s04:53
freqwhich is blazing fast in comparison to the 4 mb/s of a class 10 sd card04:53
warthog9your usb stick is one of the slowest on the market ;-)04:53
warthog9but it is impressively small04:54
freqyeah, i like the nub. it's gonna be a tails stick04:54
warthog9the sd card, assuming it's a grey/platinum looking pro card tops out at 90MB/s04:55
warthog9well 90MB/s reads, 50MB/s writes04:55
freqyea it's grey and red04:55
warthog9orange perhaps?04:55
freqhmm red and grey pretty sure04:55
warthog9sure it's not a sandisk?04:55
warthog9what's the drive info for /dev/mmcblk0 ?04:56
freqsandiskc ultra04:56
warthog9slow but super reliable04:56
freqi don't have it plugged in, i need to partition it later04:56
freqi have the 128gb XC1 sandisk also04:57
freqso much memory. sorting through it today to see what to toss and what to keep04:57
warthog9yeah the ultra tops out at 48MB/s04:57
freqit lagged like a mofo. this is a great upgrade04:58
freqi've gotta hit the hay. nice talking to you, warthog904:59
warthog9yeah I've been snagging the sandisk extreme pros, lexar high0performance 633x, or the samsung pros lately04:59
warthog9'night!05:00
freqo/05:00
*** metastableb_ <metastableb_!metastable@fiona.nas-admin.org> has joined #minnowboard05:14
*** russell-1 <russell-1!~russell@74.85.245.161> has joined #minnowboard05:20
*** thaytan_ <thaytan_!~thaytan@199.7.70.115.static.exetel.com.au> has joined #minnowboard05:21
*** russell-- <russell--!~russell@74.85.245.161> has quit IRC05:26
*** thaytan <thaytan!~thaytan@199.7.70.115.static.exetel.com.au> has quit IRC05:26
*** metastableb <metastableb!metastable@fiona.nas-admin.org> has quit IRC05:26
*** kvieta <kvieta!~kvieta@149.255.110.134> has quit IRC05:26
*** metastableb_ is now known as zz_metastableB05:34
*** kvieta <kvieta!~kvieta@149.255.110.134> has joined #minnowboard05:35
*** zz_metastableB is now known as metastableb05:41
*** diana_olhovik <diana_olhovik!~quassel@cn-bgp-nat.portaone.com> has joined #minnowboard05:56
*** metastableb is now known as zz_metastableB07:01
*** deubeuliou <deubeuliou!~David@134.134.139.76> has joined #minnowboard07:51
*** Oglarun <Oglarun!~Oglarun@tmo-096-127.customers.d1-online.com> has joined #minnowboard07:57
*** patrik__ <patrik__!~patrik@134.134.139.74> has joined #minnowboard07:59
*** bluelightning <bluelightning!~paul@83.217.123.106> has joined #minnowboard08:00
*** bluelightning <bluelightning!~paul@pdpc/supporter/professional/bluelightning> has joined #minnowboard08:00
*** Abhishek_ <Abhishek_!uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oyrdwhrckoxhpems> has joined #minnowboard08:04
*** Abhishek_ <Abhishek_!uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oyrdwhrckoxhpems> has quit IRC10:24
*** DevaamoBot <DevaamoBot!~supybot@medusa.afthd.hg.tu-darmstadt.de> has quit IRC10:25
*** DevaamoBot <DevaamoBot!~supybot@medusa.afthd.hg.tu-darmstadt.de> has joined #minnowboard10:25
*** sjoerd <sjoerd!~sjoerd@2001:981:554d:1:208:9bff:fec3:1d9e> has quit IRC10:26
*** programmerq <programmerq!~jefferya@unaffiliated/programmerq> has quit IRC10:27
*** Ulrike <Ulrike!~Ulrike_Ra@188.166.126.186> has quit IRC10:29
*** Ulrike <Ulrike!~Ulrike_Ra@188.166.126.186> has joined #minnowboard10:32
*** tbr <tbr!dm8tbr@cl-790.ham-01.de.sixxs.net> has quit IRC10:36
*** sjoerd <sjoerd!~sjoerd@2001:981:554d:1:208:9bff:fec3:1d9e> has joined #minnowboard10:36
*** Abhishek_ <Abhishek_!uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mdqmgzanlcduwsdm> has joined #minnowboard10:51
*** programmerq <programmerq!~jefferya@unaffiliated/programmerq> has joined #minnowboard10:55
*** tbr <tbr!dm8tbr@cl-790.ham-01.de.sixxs.net> has joined #minnowboard11:06
*** hrw <hrw!~hrw@redhat/hrw> has joined #minnowboard11:10
*** aholler_ is now known as aholler11:12
*** ajtag <ajtag!~ajtag@cpc10-lee211-2-0-cust124.7-1.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC12:41
*** ajtag <ajtag!~ajtag@cpc10-lee211-2-0-cust124.7-1.cable.virginm.net> has joined #minnowboard12:42
*** Oglarun <Oglarun!~Oglarun@tmo-096-127.customers.d1-online.com> has quit IRC12:46
*** hrw <hrw!~hrw@redhat/hrw> has quit IRC12:48
*** Oglarun <Oglarun!~Oglarun@tmo-096-127.customers.d1-online.com> has joined #minnowboard12:49
*** lamego <lamego!~lamego@134.134.139.76> has joined #minnowboard12:50
*** hrw <hrw!~hrw@redhat/hrw> has joined #minnowboard12:53
*** Abhishek_ <Abhishek_!uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mdqmgzanlcduwsdm> has quit IRC12:56
*** Abhishek_ <Abhishek_!uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mdcaejcewvsuwcut> has joined #minnowboard13:00
*** Oglarun <Oglarun!~Oglarun@tmo-096-127.customers.d1-online.com> has quit IRC13:31
*** Oglarun <Oglarun!~Oglarun@tmo-096-127.customers.d1-online.com> has joined #minnowboard13:39
*** Oglarun <Oglarun!~Oglarun@tmo-096-127.customers.d1-online.com> has quit IRC13:48
*** benjamirc <benjamirc!besquive@nat/intel/x-vahuoidamhlicnpg> has joined #minnowboard14:04
*** benjamirc1 <benjamirc1!~besquive@134.134.139.70> has joined #minnowboard14:06
*** benjamirc <benjamirc!besquive@nat/intel/x-vahuoidamhlicnpg> has quit IRC14:09
*** patrik__ <patrik__!~patrik@134.134.139.74> has quit IRC14:21
*** Oglarun <Oglarun!~Oglarun@tmo-096-127.customers.d1-online.com> has joined #minnowboard14:22
*** bluelightning <bluelightning!~paul@pdpc/supporter/professional/bluelightning> has quit IRC14:46
*** bluelightning <bluelightning!~paul@pdpc/supporter/professional/bluelightning> has joined #minnowboard14:53
*** benjamirc1 <benjamirc1!~besquive@134.134.139.70> has quit IRC15:03
*** benjamirc <benjamirc!besquive@nat/intel/x-lenhtnskhqjvqwxd> has joined #minnowboard15:19
*** diana_olhovik <diana_olhovik!~quassel@cn-bgp-nat.portaone.com> has quit IRC15:20
*** lamego <lamego!~lamego@134.134.139.76> has quit IRC15:33
*** lamego <lamego!lamego@nat/intel/x-iduqrkhtuheqnoei> has joined #minnowboard15:34
*** jkridner <jkridner!~jkridner@pdpc/supporter/active/jkridner> has joined #minnowboard15:37
*** inflex <inflex!~PLD@122-148-142-6.static.dsl.dodo.com.au> has quit IRC15:55
*** Oglarun <Oglarun!~Oglarun@tmo-096-127.customers.d1-online.com> has quit IRC15:57
*** emeb <emeb!~ericb@ip68-2-62-200.ph.ph.cox.net> has joined #minnowboard16:14
*** emeb <emeb!~ericb@ip68-2-62-200.ph.ph.cox.net> has quit IRC16:15
*** emeb <emeb!~ericb@ip68-2-62-200.ph.ph.cox.net> has joined #minnowboard16:16
freqhello16:23
*** deubeuliou <deubeuliou!~David@134.134.139.76> has quit IRC16:31
*** lamego <lamego!lamego@nat/intel/x-iduqrkhtuheqnoei> has quit IRC16:31
*** lamego <lamego!~lamego@134.134.139.76> has joined #minnowboard16:43
*** prpplague <prpplague!~David@134.134.139.76> has joined #minnowboard16:47
*** benjamirc <benjamirc!besquive@nat/intel/x-lenhtnskhqjvqwxd> has quit IRC17:09
*** benjamirc <benjamirc!besquive@nat/intel/x-cojojnkivsyndclv> has joined #minnowboard17:09
*** Oglarun <Oglarun!~Oglarun@tmo-096-127.customers.d1-online.com> has joined #minnowboard17:15
*** diana_olhovik_ <diana_olhovik_!~quassel@78.111.186.206> has joined #minnowboard17:19
*** Oglarun <Oglarun!~Oglarun@tmo-096-127.customers.d1-online.com> has quit IRC17:20
*** Oglarun <Oglarun!~Oglarun@p3E9D3026.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #minnowboard17:21
*** benjamirc <benjamirc!besquive@nat/intel/x-cojojnkivsyndclv> has quit IRC17:42
*** bluelightning <bluelightning!~paul@pdpc/supporter/professional/bluelightning> has quit IRC17:52
*** Oglarun <Oglarun!~Oglarun@p3E9D3026.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC17:53
warthog9freq: good morning18:13
warthog9for what little morning there is left18:13
freq:) hello18:14
freqwarthog9: i will be installing arch to the mbm today18:14
warthog9should be fun18:14
warthog9I'm led to believe by the Interns who liked Arch that it works18:14
freqsomeone mentioned a speed increase and no metapackages18:15
freqi'm down!18:15
tbrtangential topic. Are there good resources about setting up bot loaders on EFI systems?18:20
tbrlike what goes where, how does autoboot of something happen, how does the efi shell script thing fit in18:21
* tbr would like to RTFM and learn about that18:21
tbrAlso it seems like I have to tell some canonical engineers how to do their job of creating a bootable UEFI system image18:22
*** alimon <alimon!~alimon@134.134.139.70> has quit IRC18:25
*** alimon <alimon!alimon@nat/intel/x-lgmrpptmiwfsvobl> has joined #minnowboard18:27
*** Oglarun <Oglarun!~Oglarun@tmo-096-127.customers.d1-online.com> has joined #minnowboard18:35
*** benjamirc <benjamirc!~besquive@134.134.137.71> has joined #minnowboard18:37
*** alimon <alimon!alimon@nat/intel/x-lgmrpptmiwfsvobl> has quit IRC18:40
warthog9tbr: if you search for startup.nsh you can likely find all the info you could care about18:40
warthog9tbr: yeah, what's going on with Canonical on that?  I've seen a bunch of stuff that the MBM is not the only platform completely borked with 15.0418:41
*** benjamirc <benjamirc!~besquive@134.134.137.71> has quit IRC18:41
tbrwarthog9: haven't tried the traditional stuff, just the "snappy" route, which is completely broken. it comes with a UEFI partition but without the grub binaries18:42
tbrnow they added some, but it comes without a boot script and somehow the engineer claims that his test system boots without that18:43
tbrwarthog9: actually, I copied a qemu-kvm installed 15.04 server to a SD card and that seemed to boot ok on the MBM18:43
*** diana_olhovik_ <diana_olhovik_!~quassel@78.111.186.206> has quit IRC18:43
warthog9so why is the installer botching that badly on the MAX?18:44
warthog9the MAX isn't *THAT* weird18:44
tbrhaven't tried the installer18:44
*** alimon <alimon!~alimon@134.134.139.70> has joined #minnowboard18:44
warthog9hmm18:44
tbrI did the server install on my laptop in a vm as I needed a minimal 15.04 as the fixed image building tools are only available for 15.0418:45
*** freq <freq!~freq@unaffiliated/cmptr> has quit IRC18:45
tbrbut then when the ssnappy image failed I tried by writing the image to a SD card and the server install booted18:46
warthog9:-/18:49
calculusprpplague and warthog9: hi, I hope you are enjoying SF :)18:55
warthog9calculus: sorta ;-)18:55
warthog9SF is awesome18:55
prpplaguecalculus: hehe you know me... hotel -> conference -> hotel18:56
calculusprpplague: throw a bar in the mix and now I know you ;)18:56
prpplaguecalculus: hehe you know me... hotel -> conference -> hotel -> hotel bar18:57
calculus:)18:57
prpplaguehehe18:57
calculusprpplague: too bad you are leaving before maker faire18:57
prpplaguecalculus: yea i kind of wanted to stay for that but didn't really have the budget to stay over the extra days18:58
calculusI got a yocto shirt from the intel booth last year18:58
*** benjamirc <benjamirc!~besquive@134.134.139.76> has joined #minnowboard18:59
calculusI also made a wand with rolled up paper, a coin cell, copper tape, and a rather large led also from the intel booth19:02
prpplaguecalculus: cute19:03
calculusone of these guys, https://communities.intel.com/thread/5154219:04
prpplagueinteresting!19:05
*** Oglarun <Oglarun!~Oglarun@46.189.38.22> has joined #minnowboard19:11
*** hrw <hrw!~hrw@redhat/hrw> has quit IRC19:24
*** hrw <hrw!~hrw@redhat/hrw> has joined #minnowboard19:25
*** dl9pf <dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf> has quit IRC19:30
*** dl9pf <dl9pf!~quassel@static.88-198-106-157.clients.your-server.de> has joined #minnowboard19:45
*** dl9pf <dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf> has joined #minnowboard19:45
*** sjolley <sjolley!~sjolley@134.134.139.76> has quit IRC19:47
*** dl9pf <dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf> has quit IRC20:00
*** jkridner <jkridner!~jkridner@pdpc/supporter/active/jkridner> has quit IRC20:09
*** dl9pf <dl9pf!~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf> has joined #minnowboard20:12
*** RzR <RzR!~RzR@82.236.136.171> has quit IRC20:13
*** RzR <RzR!~RzR@82.236.136.171> has joined #minnowboard20:15
*** benjamirc <benjamirc!~besquive@134.134.139.76> has quit IRC20:17
*** patrik <patrik!~patrik@46.246.44.192> has quit IRC20:33
*** sjolley <sjolley!~sjolley@134.134.139.76> has joined #minnowboard20:36
*** sjolley <sjolley!~sjolley@134.134.139.76> has quit IRC20:37
*** chetco <chetco!~jb@osuosl/staff/brownju> has left #minnowboard20:40
*** sjolley <sjolley!~sjolley@134.134.139.76> has joined #minnowboard20:52
*** programm1 <programm1!~jefferya@unaffiliated/programmerq> has joined #minnowboard20:55
*** programmerq <programmerq!~jefferya@unaffiliated/programmerq> has quit IRC20:56
*** sjolley <sjolley!~sjolley@134.134.139.76> has quit IRC20:56
*** benjamirc <benjamirc!~besquive@134.134.139.70> has joined #minnowboard20:56
*** programm1 is now known as programmerq20:57
*** interrobangd <interrobangd!~interroba@2a02:8109:9640:18d8:5446:f106:1d7e:4f6e> has joined #minnowboard21:02
*** xkonni_ <xkonni_!~konni@213.165.83.116> has joined #minnowboard21:07
*** georgem_ <georgem_!~georgem@mail.novatech-llc.com> has joined #minnowboard21:09
*** xkonni <xkonni!~konni@213.165.83.116> has quit IRC21:09
*** thaytan_ <thaytan_!~thaytan@199.7.70.115.static.exetel.com.au> has quit IRC21:09
*** georgem <georgem!~georgem@mail.novatech-llc.com> has quit IRC21:09
*** flatface <flatface!~naf@lakeport.sotnetworks.com> has quit IRC21:09
*** thaytan <thaytan!~thaytan@115.70.7.199> has joined #minnowboard21:11
*** flatface <flatface!~naf@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:6d7:83c1:794e> has joined #minnowboard21:11
*** georgem_ is now known as georgem21:28
*** RzR <RzR!~RzR@82.236.136.171> has quit IRC21:37
*** bluelightning <bluelightning!~paul@2001:8b0:258:7d7a:2ad2:44ff:fe40:9209> has joined #minnowboard21:41
*** bluelightning <bluelightning!~paul@pdpc/supporter/professional/bluelightning> has joined #minnowboard21:41
*** RzR <RzR!~RzR@82.236.136.171> has joined #minnowboard21:41
*** benjamirc <benjamirc!~besquive@134.134.139.70> has quit IRC21:45
*** Oglarun <Oglarun!~Oglarun@46.189.38.22> has quit IRC21:50
*** freq <freq!~nohe@unaffiliated/cmptr> has joined #minnowboard22:01
*** lamego <lamego!~lamego@134.134.139.76> has quit IRC22:12
*** prpplague <prpplague!~David@134.134.139.76> has quit IRC22:21
wmatOpenBSD on MAX if anyone is interested: http://countersiege.com/2015/02/22/minnowboard_max_openbsd.html22:22
*** emeb <emeb!~ericb@ip68-2-62-200.ph.ph.cox.net> has quit IRC22:32
*** emeb <emeb!~ericb@ip68-2-62-200.ph.ph.cox.net> has joined #minnowboard22:34
*** agust <agust!~agust@p4FDE70B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC22:42
*** freq <freq!~nohe@unaffiliated/cmptr> has quit IRC22:47
*** freq <freq!~nohe@pool-71-161-255-137.sctnpa.east.verizon.net> has joined #minnowboard22:47
*** freq <freq!~nohe@unaffiliated/cmptr> has joined #minnowboard22:47
*** interrobangd <interrobangd!~interroba@2a02:8109:9640:18d8:5446:f106:1d7e:4f6e> has quit IRC22:49
*** zz_metastableB is now known as metastableb23:47

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.11.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!